mattn wrote:CO is a great gas, you don't know you have a fault until you wake up dead. It happens on average once every couple of years in New Zealand.
Wow really? You mean from car exhausts though right?
I mean, I did a quick search and all I could find thats relative to your argument is an incident at Lake Alexandrina in 2012 and that was a fridge not a califont
I am super confused how you think you could die from a Carbon Monoxide poisoning from a califont, I reckon with our stingy 85L fresh water tank I would be cold in the shower long before I was cold in my grave
Your install (unless the combustion gas is drawn from outside) may be well done from a cosmetic view point, and may even be safe*, but is not legal*.
Well it was done back in 2011, and it appears to have a vented intake, does that mean it is or isn't ok?
Banned in caravans is what I meant. Caravans are usually much smaller than a house and much more airtight.
The video you referenced makes no mention of installing it in a caravan and forty three seconds in actually states "The unit should never be used in a sealed environment" (like a caravan).
The appliance you have is what is called an open flued appliance. While the combustion products are vented through the flue, the appliance takes its air from the living spaces. People have died from faulty open flued appliances in NZ. In a caravan with smaller volumes and less natural ventilation the risk of harm from a faulty appliance is much greater.
So if what you and Matt are saying is true, how do all the other people with califont gas in their motorhomes get on?
I am super confused about this. So, I am close to contacting the seller (who is a NZMCA member) and enquiring with them, but I just want to make sure I have all the facts first.
A quick google search comes up with quite a few images of campers here in nz with gas califonts fitted in the living areas.
This one being sold by RVShop here in NZ is very similar to ours: http://www.rvshop.co.nz/catalog/latest- ... ter-heater
It says it can
be fitted internally. "Designed to be installed inside with a flue to vent the emissions." and "Ideal for a wide variety of installations for domestic, marine and recreational vehicles"
And this was just the first one on the page...
Anyway, just how
would you operate the thing if it wasn't inside?? The on/off switch is on the front
The same way you would if you had an Infinity mounted on the outside of your house — turn the hot tap on and the W/H goes "woomp". In the case of a room-sealed W/H in a caravan the unit will generally be under the floor.
Well we have two Rinnai infinity units at our house, so I understand how they
are supposed to work, whereas this thing in our camper has no instruction manual and I have to admit we are struggling a bit at working it. The thing is, if its left switched on, it seems to want to reignite and stuff. It also has the temperature displayed on that front panel and also all the controls (those three knobs, I am confused as hell as to why ours works best on winter and its summer) so operating it from the outside of the camper would be impossible. Unless you had it mounted backwards in said outside cupboard with the face plate sealed against the inside.
Look, I am by no means an expert on this stuff, and I don't pretend to be but there has got to be more to this than just what you two (who happen to be the most vocal on the other threads concerning gas installs) are saying here.
Anyone else keen to chime in?
Edited, I had too many smilies? wow never seen a smilie limit before