#126330  by wahlet
 Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:08 am
I'm getting ready to do a "stealth" fit-out of the cargo van shown in my signature below. It's currently just an empty box. By "stealth" I mean minimal exterior mods, so it continues to look like a worker's van, and can stay under the radar in urban areas when this is required. Anyway.

My question is around registration and warrants. I'm planning to set it up to achieve Self Containment Certification. Will it be required to be re-registered as a motorhome? If it's optional, are there any advantages to doing so?

It is considered a Heavy Van as its GVW Is 4.6 tonnes, which means 2x COFs per year at around $130 each. Since the van will no longer be used for heavy haulage, is it possible to reclassify it as a Light Van and save half the cost by doing WOFs instead? What is the process for doing so?
 #126345  by vansvilla
 Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:55 am
Once you have 50% of it converted to a Motor home then you can and should change the registration to " Motorhlme".

This gets you the letter K on your registration sticker, meaning cheaper registration (it used to anyway) it also means that you don't have to fill out a Work Time log book. Doesn't mean you can exceed work time requirements you just don't need to log them.

It is my eternal hope also that that LTSA in its collective wisdom will one day recognise the Reg class as being motor homes and look at things like annual COF's for motor homes so registered. Given that not many motorhomes do the sort of distances the commercial guys do. Sure, 44 tons doing 4000Km a week like some of the line haul guys do will justify 6 monthly inspections.
I have had about 24 COF inspections and only travelled 84000Km, some Line haul trucks at that distance will have only had 2.

They may also eventually work out that a motorhome has no chance of reaching it's GVM and should be able to buy RUC on its operating weight, ie I could buy an 8 ton sticker instead of the 12 ton I need to buy now.
The weight is easily checked at the COF check as the brake rollers weigh the vehicle, insufficient RUC weight then no pass simple eh?

Those are pipe dreams really but by having that Motor home class of registration make it possible.

Well that is a long winded answer but you did ask the question providing me with the opportunity to express my thoughts so thank you and sorry 'bout that at the same time :D

PS. Some of the Toyota people carriers have single swivel seats but you would need to make bases to suit the height you need. Pick them up from the wreckers for very little, probably get a matching set so the upholstery matches.
 #126348  by wahlet
 Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:56 am
BUSRSQ wrote:The GVM is set by the manufacturer, this can not be changed so you are stuck with COFs.
Are you sure? At the link below is a van for sale on Trademe that is virtually identical to mine, but is registered as a light vehicle and only requires a WOF.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/1296801726
http://www.motorweb.co.nz/pub/vehicle/1 ... b.co.nz%2F
 #126368  by BUSRSQ
 Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:13 pm
wahlet wrote:
BUSRSQ wrote:The GVM is set by the manufacturer, this can not be changed so you are stuck with COFs.
Are you sure? At the link below is a van for sale on Trademe that is virtually identical to mine, but is registered as a light vehicle and only requires a WOF.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/1296801726
http://www.motorweb.co.nz/pub/vehicle/1 ... b.co.nz%2F
I am 100% sure, I do this for a living I know what can and cannot be done :)
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