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 #162667  by Rob Dunedin
 Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:36 pm
Hi I am looking at buying my first 2nd hand van and was wanting some guidance on the better makes and models. I have a budget of up to 50k and would like a 6m or shorter van and good internal height as Im 6ft 3. Good on gravel roads would also be a bonus. I will get if fully checked out before purchase of course. Any ideas or advise would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Rob
 #162673  by mattn
 Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:02 am
Have a search on this forum - theres been a lot of discussion around the pros and cons of the Euro van based units and the truck based units

e.g.
https://nzmotorhome.co.nz/forum/viewtop ... WD#p119769

https://nzmotorhome.co.nz/forum/viewtop ... WD#p113919

https://nzmotorhome.co.nz/forum/viewtop ... an#p159150

Be aware that many of the posts are now quite old. WHile the vehiles have not changed much, with much more experiance of the Euro vehcile our knowledge and opinions may have.
 #162675  by Nut17
 Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:35 am
We have recently gone through the same exercise, but the main considerations for us were ground clearance, towing capacity and payload. Right now, a large percentage of the Fiat based motorhomes are travelling right on or in many cases, significantly over their certified maximum weight. A large proportion of this issue is created by keeping the GVM under the magic 3500kg to enable a WOF status with an annual inspection, rather than the much more stringent (and expensive) COF regime with 6 monthly inspections.

The Heavy Traffic Police have the advantage of the current roll out of under the road automatic weigh stations with licence plate recognition, which will allow them to easily identify large numbers of potentially overweight rigs with little effort. How long it will take before motor homes and caravans / 5th wheel rigs get brought under this scheme is still unknown but should not be discounted.
If you google "Fiat Ducato Reliability", there will be hundreds of common issues, but as a percentage of the numbers actually plying the world roads, the numbers are very small, indicating that they are mechanically very durable.
My personal preference in your budget would be a Ford Transit, or Mitsubishi Canter based rig. Choosing the lowest KM and known service record if possible.
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